Jodan Uke vs Shuto Uke- What’s the difference and does it matter?


I love it when students ask questions. Sometimes as a teacher I think that some things are obvious and everyone knows what I mean. In that moments it is great to have students who are not afraid to ask questions, even if they think they are trivial.

On our last session one student asked about the difference between Jodan and Shuto Uke, as for that student they feel very similar. Here’s my explanation about the differences from my perspective.


About the author: Les Bubka is an experienced martial artist, personal trainer and therapist who specialises in posture, mobility and Karate.  Les works with a wide variety of clients including martial artists and athletes as well as those suffering with postural dysfunction or those who wish to improve their fitness and wellbeing

Is doing basics always good for you?

“Doing basics is always good” I have heard this so many times! It is often used by instructors all over the world as an excuse, to cover their lack of advanced knowledge. From a Karate perspective I would consider basics to be the standard Kihon – single techniques that are executed in a repetitive fashion.
I can understand those who wish to perfect a single technique through years of dedication to the art of movement.
For most practitioners, how long does it take to learn the basics? Are you ready when you graded as a black belt to do advanced stuff? Probably you will hear “now you have to master the basics”. It is bit of a phenomenon in martial arts, as you have never been told in school “OK you have learnt the alphabet, now go and master it!” You initially learn the alphabet so that you can progress on to reading and writing words, which then leads to sentences and so on.
I have never heard of someone who is already literate going back to learn their ABCs… As a comparison, in martial arts you learn the basics, then you do combinations and kata, but then you are told go back to basics. I guess I have been very fortunate to have teachers that have encouraged me to do more advanced training and have always supported me in looking for someone who can teach me more.
Regressing back to basics is a common practice in martial arts. Having visited seminars with high grade masters with 6th, 7th, 8th dans it has always seemed odd to me that we do basic techniques such as tsuki, mae geri etc. for hours.
I personally disagree with this approach, yes from time to time we need to refresh our memory by going through basics but basics from a certain grade upwards cannot replace quality advance training. In my club, students from about fifth Kyu are introduced to more advanced concepts of Bunkai (applications) and Kumite (fighting). Having become dan grades, our students should attend regular advanced classes that do not repeat basics – basics can be done at home or when teaching other students. I believe that after attaining black belt we should switch our focus from technique in favour of adopting a way of thinking. What do I mean by this? We have all been told that this technique is for this or that. For example let’s take Soto Uke, which is taught as a block for an incoming strike. Yes you can use it like this, but there are multiple techniques that you can use for blocking a strike.
Perhaps more useful applications of Soto Uke is as a take down, high throw, joint lock etc. What we aim to achieve with students by getting them to adopt a way of thinking is to stop them worrying about specific techniques for specific attacks and shift the emphasis to responding fluently and automatically to a threat.
When we start discovering all the advanced applications for basics the reason why we are taught them in the first place becomes clear, with the result being that we change the way we execute the basic technique to suit its application to each threat that we are faced with. Every student will begin to tailor their basics differently as we are all built differently and think in different ways – we often have our own favourite ways of doing things.
So to conclude, we need to have a solid foundation in our basics in order to progress, but if we do not make this natural jump from basic technique repetition to understanding their advance application then we are missing out on a big part of the depth of our art.
I hope that you found this article helpful. I think the practice of basics is a contentious issue as lots of people have their own thoughts on how to effectively incorporate them into training. I look forward to further debates on the issue!
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